Every Thursday, film editor A.A. Dowd and staff writer Ignatiy Vishnevetsky sit down in The A.V. Club’s studio to talk movies and answer questions on Film Club, an extended discussion broadcast through our Facebook page. This week, they found themselves at loggerheads over Pablo Larraín’s biographical drama Jackie, starring Natalie Portman as the former first lady.

You can watch the entire chat—including their thoughts on Damien Chazelle’s musical La La Land, which they both liked—below.