This video contains spoilers for the ending of Rogue One, obviously.

The ending to Rogue One is quite unusual for a modern blockbuster. There aren’t many studios that would be comfortable killing off all the main protagonists in a blockbuster movie, especially one that’s aimed at a younger demographic. Early this week, it was reported that screenwriter Gary Whitta didn’t think Disney didn’t think Disney would approve the ending. Apparently, director Gareth Edwards thought so too. The A.V. Club caught up with Edwards at SXSW and talked to him about the ending—and especially how he didn’t think it was going to be allowed to happen.

Watch Gareth Edwards discuss his use of scale here.