Gareth Edwards has become known somewhat for the use of scale in his films. The creatures and machines from Edwards’ films like Monsters, Godzilla, and Rogue One are all made to look like massive juggernauts from the perspective of the audience. At SXSW, The A.V. Club sat down with the writer-director to get a better idea of his thought process and stylistic choices.

Watch Gareth Edwards discuss the Rogue One ending here.